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Poster: Lance Burtcaster Date: Apr 5, 2009 2:34pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: copyright on these films? (modified list)

Some may be named before, but please answer me:

* The Story of the Concierge Mukuzo Imokawa (1917)
* The Romance of Tarzan (1918)
* Salomé (1923)
* Bulldog Drumond (1929)
* The Road to Ruin (1934)
* Murder in Harlem (1935)
* Robinson Crusoe of Clipper Island (1936)
* Swing! (1938)
* The Terror of Tiny Town (1938)
* The Phantom Creeps (1939)
* The Notorious Elinor Lee (1940)
* Batman (1943)
* Momotaro's Sea Eagles (1943 - foreign but propoganda)
* Bleubeard (1944)
* Captain America (1944)
* Delinquent Daughters (1944)
* Of One Blood (1944)
* Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors (1945 - foreign but propoganda)
* Beale Street Mama (1946)
* Dirty Gertie from Harlem U.S.A. (1946)
* Boy! What a Girl! (1947)
* Railroaded! (1947)
* Juke Joint (1947)
* Sepia Cinderella (1947)
* Dutch in Seven Lessons (1948 - Foreign but infromercion goals/travelfilm)**
* Test Tube Babies (1948)
* The Girl in Room 20 (1949)
* She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949)
* Chained For Life (1951)
* The Well (1951)
* Mesa of Lost Women (1953)
* Stamp Day for Superman (1954)
* God's Little Acre (1958)
* Hag in a Black Leather Jacket (1964)
* The Ballad of Andy Crocker (1969)
* Moon of the Wolf (1972)
* They Eat Scum (1979)

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Apr 6, 2009 11:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: copyright on these films? (modified list)

* The Story of the Concierge Mukuzo Imokawa (1917) PD (but check music/titles)
* The Romance of Tarzan (1918) PD (but check tiles/music)
* Salomé (1923) PD
* Bulldog Drumond (1929) Copyright renewed R175568
* The Road to Ruin (1934) PD
* Murder in Harlem (1935) PD
* Robinson Crusoe of Clipper Island (1936) PD
* Swing! (1938) Never reg'd PD
* The Terror of Tiny Town (1938) PD
* The Phantom Creeps (1939) PD
* The Notorious Elinor Lee (1940) Never reg'd/PD
* Batman (1943) Copyright Protected by virtue of Trademarks.
* Momotaro's Sea Eagles (1943 - foreign but propoganda) Most recent Japanese High Court ruling suggests that this would still be under copyright in it's home country.
* Bleubeard (1944) PD
* Captain America (1944) Copyright prtected by virtue of Trademarks
* Delinquent Daughters (1944) PD
* Of One Blood (1944) Never reg'd (PD)
* Momotaro's Divine Sea Warriors (1945 - foreign but propoganda) Most recent Japanese High Court ruling suggests that this would still be under copyright in it's home country.
* Beale Street Mama (1946) never reg'd (PD)
* Dirty Gertie from Harlem U.S.A. (1946) never reg'd (PD)
* Boy! What a Girl! (1947) PD
* Railroaded! (1947)Renewed R599793
* Juke Joint (1947) never reg'd (PD)
* Sepia Cinderella (1947) never reg'd (PD)
* Dutch in Seven Lessons (1948 - Foreign but infromercion goals/travelfilm)** Under dutch law life plus 70 so probably copyright so not until at least 2058.
* Test Tube Babies (1948) PD
* The Girl in Room 20 (1949) never reg'd (PD)
* She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) Renewed R637955 (1976)
* Chained For Life (1951) PD
* The Well (1951)Renewed RE0000040756 / 1979-12-17
* Mesa of Lost Women (1953) PD
* Stamp Day for Superman (1954) Government film PD Already on IA http://www.archive.org/details/StampDayForSUPERMAN
* God's Little Acre (1958) Renewed RE0000304495 / 1986-09-25
* Hag in a Black Leather Jacket (1964) Copyright to John Waters as are all of his early films.
* The Ballad of Andy Crocker (1969) invalid notice + never reg'd (PD)
* Moon of the Wolf (1972) invalid notice + never reg'd (PD)
* They Eat Scum (1979) never reg'd. if it doesn't have a valid notice (Copyright, Year, Owner) it is PD. If it does it is copyright

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Poster: k-otic Date: Apr 6, 2009 2:53am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: copyright on these films? (modified list)

not sure ... but i think those are already here

The Terror of Tiny Town (1938)
Boy! What a Girl! (1947)
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949)
Stamp Day for Superman (1954)
God's Little Acre (1958)

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Poster: quigs Date: Apr 6, 2009 4:52pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: copyright on these films? (modified list)

The majority of these films are here but John Ford's Yellow Ribbon is not nor is God's Little Acre. I think God's Little Acre was here for awhile, but was pulled.

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Poster: k-otic Date: Apr 7, 2009 1:53am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: copyright on these films? (modified list)

strange .. i was pretty sure that "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" was allready here ... i must getting old .. sniff

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Apr 7, 2009 2:07am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: copyright on these films? (modified list)

I think "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" was here for a short while but got removed. The film is PD in Australia, New Zealand, Canada and most of Asia, but in the US its still copyright.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-04-07 09:07:09

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Poster: vaagheid Date: Apr 7, 2009 9:20am
Forum: feature_films Subject: What's the case with "They Eat Scum"

I have seen this film mentioned here a couple of times (I believe once even by me) but never saw a post that really explained to me if it was PD or not???

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Apr 7, 2009 11:55pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: What's the case with 'They Eat Scum'

I've never seen the film but, like many independent films, it was never registered for copyright. Basicaly for any film that was released after 1978 if it does not have a correct copyright notice and was not registered within 5 years it is public domain. If it contains a valid notice it is not Public DOmain but as long as it is not registered with the US copyright office the copyright holder cannot sue or claim damages for infringement. This creates a kind of ad hoc form of public domain status that some people call "the grey market".

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Apr 7, 2009 1:01am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: copyright on these films? (modified list)

"God's Little Acre" is like "Day of the Triffids". They were made by Security Pictures which was a successor to Monogram. When the Mirisch Brothers moved from Allied Artists (Monogram) to United Artists, the Allied Artists catalogue fell into the hands of a company called "Motion Picture Holdings" (MPH inc) who were diligent with renewals but when video came along they paralell licenced their catalogue to many labels making it look as though the films were PD. Confusing many people until today.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-04-07 08:01:50

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